{"id":170,"date":"2005-12-03T12:50:02","date_gmt":"2005-12-03T18:50:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/?p=170"},"modified":"2005-12-05T12:53:52","modified_gmt":"2005-12-05T18:53:52","slug":"selling-off-public-lands","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/nada\/dump-duhbya\/selling-off-public-lands\/","title":{"rendered":"Selling Off Public Lands?"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote class=\"mine\"><p>You probably already know <\/p>\n<p>about Congressman Richard W. Pombo&#8217;s (R-CA) <a title=\"mjh's blog -- Stealing Home\" href=\"http:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/nada\/dump-\n\nduhbya\/stealing-home\/\">efforts to &#8220;modernize&#8221; the ridiculously outdated 1872 Mining Patents Act<\/a>. Many people agree this act does not <\/p>\n<p>charge enough for the resources one can grab through it. So, to his credit, Pombo wants to charge more &#8212; up to $1000 \/ acre, instead of <\/p>\n<p>pennies &#8212; though probably not what the minerals or land are really worth.<\/p>\n<p>My gripe is the underlying assumption &#8212; widely held in <\/p>\n<p>the GOP &#8212; that the public should own less land. They regularly sneer at all the land &#8220;the government owns.&#8221; Wrong! You and I own that <\/p>\n<p>land and it serves many uses, including just sitting there for the hell of it. It is neither necessary nor healthy to require every acre <\/p>\n<p>of the earth to belong to someone and &#8220;produce&#8221; something. <\/p>\n<p>Read through these 4 articles (two by the same author); the third one <\/p>\n<p>attempts to refute the concerns raised by the others. <\/p>\n<p>Our own Saint Pete may be a key player here. Let him know what you think <\/p>\n<p>about this. <span class=\"sig\">mjh<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a title=\"Write Your Representative - Contact your Congressperson in the \n\nU.S. House of Representatives.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.house.gov\/writerep\/\">Write Your Representative &#8211; Contact your Congressperson in the U.S. <\/p>\n<p>House of Representatives.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"U.S. Senate: Senators Home\" \n\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.senate.gov\/general\/contact_information\/senators_cfm.cfm?State=NM\">U.S. Senate: Senators Home<\/a><br \/>\n&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p><a \n\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.abqjournal.com\/news\/state\/413232nm12-03-05.htm\">ABQjournal: Plan for Selling Public Lands Worries Govs.<\/a> By Jennifer <\/p>\n<p>Talhelm, The Associated Press<\/p>\n<p>Six Western governors, including New Mexico&#8217;s Bill Richardson, and a growing number of senators say <\/p>\n<p>they fear a congressional plan allowing the sale of millions of acres of public lands could do permanent harm to everything from <\/p>\n<p>agriculture and the environment to the ski industry.<\/p>\n<p>    &#8220;It&#8217;s got implications for hunters, sportsmen, people who use lands for <\/p>\n<p>grazing and basically anybody who uses public lands,&#8221; said Angela de Rocha, a spokeswoman for Colorado Sen. Wayne Allard, one of a <\/p>\n<p>handful of Republican senators expressing concern about the proposal.<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p><a \n\nhref=\"http:\/\/epaper.abqjournal.com\/Default\/Layout\/Includes\/AlJournal\/ArtWin.asp?\n\nFrom=Archive&#038;Source=Page&#038;Skin=AlJournal&#038;BaseHref=JD\n\n%2F2005%2F12%2F02&#038;ViewMode=HTML&#038;GZ=T&#038;EntityId=Ar01302&#038;AppName=1\">House Stealth Measure Sells Off Public Lands<\/a> BY <\/p>\n<p>MIKE DOMBECK AND JACK WARD THOMAS, Former chiefs, U.S. Forest Service<\/p>\n<p>Sometime around 1 a.m. Nov. 18, the House of Representatives <\/p>\n<p>passed the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 by a vote of 217-215. Buried in the 680-page<br \/>\nbill was language that lifts an 11-year <\/p>\n<p>moratorium on the patenting, or sale, of public lands to mining companies, and appears to pave the way for the sale of public lands to <\/p>\n<p>mining companies and other development interests for as little as $1,000 per acre.<\/p>\n<p>    These public lands are a birthright that <\/p>\n<p>should not be gambled on legislation passed in the dark of the night with an essential absence of any public notice or scrutiny. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>There are few decisions that Congress makes that have irreversible consequences. Selling off our public land legacy is one that does. <\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Some believe that something so valuable should not be owned by all U.S. citizens but should instead be devolved into other <\/p>\n<p>ownership or corporate control. To be certain, it is the prerogative of members of Congress to change laws as they see fit in the best <\/p>\n<p>interest of their constituents. And it is our duty as citizens to ensure they know our views before they vote. Legislation that has the <\/p>\n<p>potential to remove public lands from public hands should only be brought to a vote after a full and vigorous debate. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>But that <\/p>\n<p>debate, and the debates to follow, can and will occur only so long as public lands remain in public ownership. Within the next few weeks, <\/p>\n<p>the public land sales provisions that passed the House of Representatives will be considered in a conference between the Senate and the <\/p>\n<p>House. Members should be urged to strip out the provisions of the House-passed bill that allows for the sale of our public lands \u2014 the <\/p>\n<p>heritage of future generations. Then, by all means, let the debate relative to the provisions of the 1872 Mining Act began in the full <\/p>\n<p>light of public scrutiny.<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\".: Albany Democrat-Herald :. Archives\" \n\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.dhonline.com\/articles\/2005\/11\/26\/news\/opinion\/edit01.txt\">New land rush? Not so fast!<\/a> by Editor Hering<\/p>\n<p>First, <\/p>\n<p>the person must hold a valid mining claim open to actual mining, having completed all the required state and federal paperwork. Then the <\/p>\n<p>claim must be contiguous to claims where mining has been or is being done. And finally mining on the claim itself must be taking place.<\/p>\n<p>The committee sums things up by citing as fiction: &#8220;Real estate speculators, oil and gas companies, foreign mining corporations <\/p>\n<p>or anyone who is willing to pay as little as $1,000 per acre could buy the land and develop it any way they wanted.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The <\/p>\n<p>statement,&#8221; the committee answers, &#8220;fails to pass the laugh test. Unless real estate speculators, oil and gas companies and the like want <\/p>\n<p>to enter the mining industry and begin staking mining claims and developing hardrock minerals, they would not qualify under the <\/p>\n<p>provisions of this bill to purchase lands.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>If you want more or to check yourself, be my guest. The site is <a \n\nhref=\"http:\/\/resourcescommittee.house.gov\/\">resourcescommittee.house.gov<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"mine\"><p>A few things about the <\/p>\n<p>preceding defense of the proposed changes. First, how many times have we heard &#8220;trust us&#8221; only to find out later that, oops, we didn&#8217;t <\/p>\n<p>realize this might happen. Second, what an odd tone from a congressional committee &#8212; the &#8220;laugh test&#8221;?! Sounds like it was written by <\/p>\n<p>some corporation that has spent millions already and has no intention of letting anything spoil the deal. Finally, if this is such a <\/p>\n<p>noble effort, why is it buried in a 600+ page budget bill? <span class=\"sig\">mjh<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p><a \n\ntitle=\"TimesUnion.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timesunion.com\/AspStories\/story.asp?storyID=422576&#038;category=OPINION&#038;newsdate=11\/23\/2005\">Greedy <\/p>\n<p>grab for public land<\/a><\/p>\n<p>There are plenty of examples of how companies have used the 1872 mining law to get their hands on public <\/p>\n<p>resources. In 1970, Frank Melluzzo &#8220;patented&#8221; &#8212; bought &#8212; public land near Phoenix for $150. Ten years later, he sold it for more than <\/p>\n<p>$400,000. Today, the Pointe Hilton Hotel in Phoenix sits on this mining claim. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Now a few folks in Congress want to turn back <\/p>\n<p>the clock. The results of these policies will be a fleecing of taxpayers and a cheating of future generations of public land.<\/p>\n<p>Roosevelt said: &#8220;The nation behaves well if it treats the natural resources as assets which it must turn over to the next generation <\/p>\n<p>increased, and not impaired, in value.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You probably already know about Congressman Richard W. Pombo&#8217;s (R-CA) efforts to &#8220;modernize&#8221; the ridiculously outdated 1872 Mining Patents Act. Many people agree this act does not charge enough for the resources one can grab through it. So, to his credit, Pombo wants to charge more &#8212; up to $1000 \/ acre, instead of pennies &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/nada\/dump-duhbya\/selling-off-public-lands\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Selling Off Public Lands?<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-170","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-dump-duhbya"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/170","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=170"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/170\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=170"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=170"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=170"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}