{"id":166,"date":"2005-11-28T12:04:16","date_gmt":"2005-11-28T18:04:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/?p=166"},"modified":"2005-11-28T16:08:08","modified_gmt":"2005-11-28T22:08:08","slug":"newsdaycom-poll-dems-barbs-hurt-troops","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/nada\/dump-duhbya\/newsdaycom-poll-dems-barbs-hurt-troops\/","title":{"rendered":"Can we talk? Or not?"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote class=\"mine\"><p>A majority of Americans distrust Duhbya and <\/p>\n<p>dislike Cheney (even fear\/hate\/loathe him). A majority believes we were &#8216;manipulated&#8217; into war. A majority gives at least lip service <\/p>\n<p>to freedom of speech and dissent. Yet, a majority believes talking about the war hurts troop morale. So, are we to just shut up or is <\/p>\n<p>lowered morale the price we must pay to get at the truth? <span class=\"sig\">mjh<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a \n\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.newsday.com\/news\/nationworld\/nation\/ny-uspoll284531105nov28,0,6222628.story?coll=ny-uspolitics-headlines\">Newsday.com: <\/p>\n<p>Poll: Dems&#8217; barbs hurt troops<\/a> THE WASHINGTON POST<\/p>\n<p>[A] new poll conducted Nov. 17-20 indicates most Americans are sympathetic <\/p>\n<p>to Cheney&#8217;s point. Seventy percent of people said that criticism of the war by Democratic senators hurts troop morale &#8211; with 44 percent <\/p>\n<p>saying morale is hurt &#8220;a lot,&#8221; according to a poll taken by RT Strategies.<\/p>\n<p>Even self-identified Democrats agree: 55 percent <\/p>\n<p>believe criticism hurts morale, while 21 percent say it helps morale.<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p><a \n\nhref=\"http:\/\/159.54.227.3\/apps\/pbcs.dll\/article?AID=\/20051128\/NEWS\/51128011\">As VP goes on attack, poll numbers fall off<\/a> CHICAGO <\/p>\n<p>TRIBUNE<\/p>\n<p>The vice president\u2019s hard-line language fires up the conservative base that remains fond of Cheney, it does not appear to <\/p>\n<p>impress much of the rest of the country. Polls show Cheney is less popular than Bush, who himself is suffering from the lowest ratings of <\/p>\n<p>his presidency.<\/p>\n<p>Cheney\u2019s image has not been helped by such moves as his decision to attend an upcoming fundraiser for Rep. Tom <\/p>\n<p>DeLay, R-Texas, the in-dicted former House majority leader. A cartoon in The Washington Post recently showed a glowering Cheney, angry <\/p>\n<p>that Bush pardoned the Thanksgiving turkey.<\/p>\n<p>Among Republicans, 80 percent in a Nov. 11-13 Gallup survey said they approved of <\/p>\n<p>Bush\u2019s job performance, while 68 percent ap-proved of Cheney\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p><strong>A majority of all 1,006 voters surveyed rated Cheney\u2019s <\/p>\n<p>advice to the president as \u201cbad.\u201d<\/strong> <span class=\"mine\">[mjh: amen.]<\/span><br \/>\n&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p><a \n\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2005\/11\/24\/AR2005112400477.html\">The Phony War Against the Critics<\/a> By <\/p>\n<p>Michael Kinsley<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;One might also argue,&#8221; Vice President Cheney said in a speech on Monday, &#8220;that untruthful charges against the <\/p>\n<p>commander in chief have an insidious effect on the war effort.&#8221; That would certainly be an ugly and demagogic argument, were one to make <\/p>\n<p>it. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Lest one fear that he might be saying that, Cheney immediately added, <strong>&#8220;I&#8217;m unwilling to say that&#8221; &#8212; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>that<\/em>&#8221; being what he had just said.<\/strong> He generously granted critics the right to criticize (as did the president this <\/p>\n<p>week). Then he resumed hurling adjectives like an ape hurling coconuts at unwanted visitors. &#8220;Dishonest.&#8221; &#8220;Reprehensible.&#8221; &#8220;Corrupt.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Shameless.&#8221; President Bush and others joined in, all morally outraged that anyone would accuse the administration of misleading us into <\/p>\n<p>war by faking a belief that Saddam Hussein possessed nuclear and\/or chemical and biological weapons.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A majority of Americans distrust Duhbya and dislike Cheney (even fear\/hate\/loathe him). A majority believes we were &#8216;manipulated&#8217; into war. A majority gives at least lip service to freedom of speech and dissent. Yet, a majority believes talking about the war hurts troop morale. So, are we to just shut up or is lowered morale &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/nada\/dump-duhbya\/newsdaycom-poll-dems-barbs-hurt-troops\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Can we talk? Or not?<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-166","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-dump-duhbya"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/166","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=166"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/166\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=166"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=166"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.edgewiseblog.com\/mjh\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=166"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}