Do children understand irony? Does Science Daily?

It took me a long time to realize that I use the word irony differently from anyone I’ve ever discussed the term with. Most people speak of irony as intentional – “I was being ironic” – which is impossible for me. I prefer to call “intentional irony” sarcasm, as in “I’m sure you agree this is interesting …” Then there is real irony, which cannot ever be intentional, as I use irony. You worry about the safety of your car, so you trade it in for a new one. Driving out of the lot, you are hit and killed. That’s ironic. (As it would be, if I were hit by a car soon after writing this. I rarely challenge irony so publicly.)

To me, irony is beyond our control, which makes everyone else’s use of the word ironic. We recognize irony – we don’t plan and execute it. In fact, we appreciate irony. I think that may be the one thing that separates humans from all other creatures.

Do children understand irony? New study reveals they do

New research findings from the Université de Montréal reveals that children as young as four are able to understand and use irony.

Do children understand irony? New study reveals they do

The study does not determine whether children comprehend irony, as I use the word. In my idiolect, children understand sarcasm. Note, in fact, the irony that the title uses the wrong (IMO) term while the researchers do not.

"We examined children at home and took into consideration four types of non-literal language: hyperbole, euphemism, sarcasm[,] and rhetorical questions." … The study, which was done in collaboration with Holly Recchia from Concordia University, revealed that the children understood at least one ironic remark made by one of the parents. Although children can fully comprehend this language by age six, certain forms of irony such as hyperbole were understood at age four. In 22 of the 39 families studied, it was sarcasm that was best understood overall by the children.

“Ironic remark” is an oxymoron (for me), not real irony, but sarcasm. I wonder if the reporter made the leap that the “four types of non-literal language” are collectively irony. (Surely, euphemism isn’t irony.)

We think language can be so precise, yet it is all subject to interpretation. Ironic, isn’t it.

Overall, hyperbole and sarcasm were most often used during positive interactions with children, while euphemisms and rhetorical questions were mostly used in situations of conflict. Also, mothers and fathers did not use irony in the same way. Mothers were more inclined to use rhetorical questions and fathers preferred sarcasm.

Again, is the subsuming of the four types of non-literal communication under the irony umbrella something the reporter is choosing? Does the last sentence imply mothers were in conflict and fathers more positive? Or is there a gender basis for which of the four non-literal forms are used in a situation (taking both the parent and child’s gender into consideration). I think we need more grant money. (Sarcasm.)

I used to say sarcasm was my first language. I’ve always assumed I learned sarcasm from my mother. It would be ironic if that weren’t the case. Interesting that sarcasm is used in “positive interactions.” Another reason to associate sarcasm with my mother. It may also offer a hint at why some people have trouble grokking sarcasm.

"Children’s understanding of complex communication is more sophisticated than we believed in the past," says Alexander. "If parents are conscious that by age four a child can take a remark literally, especially in situations of conflict, using appropriate language can help defuse a potentially explosive situation."

Sigh. We spent the whole article learning that children comprehend non-literal communication at an early age and from that Alexander draws the conclusion that parents should be conscious that their kids “can take a remark literally.” WTF?! Isn’t the point that parents should learn that children can take a remark non-literally – that they (we, once) might understand more than the obvious or intended? Pffft.

PS: I suddenly realize the original study may have been done in French. Gawd knows what happened in translation. If I had been born a native French speaker, would I have the same view of a word everyone else uses differently from me? Language shapes mind. You are what you speak.


Synchronicity brings two other stories to my attention at the same time. It’s all related, if only here.

Children and adults see the world differently, research finds

Unlike adults, children are able to keep information from their senses separate and may therefore perceive the visual world differently, according to new research. … The results, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, imply that children’s experience of the visual world is very different to that of adults.

Children and adults see the world differently, research finds

Children under four and children with autism don’t yawn contagiously

If someone near you yawns, do you yawn, too? About half of adults yawn after someone else does in a phenomenon called contagious yawning. Now a new study has found that most children aren’t susceptible to contagious yawning until they’re about 4 years old — and that children with autism are less likely to yawn contagiously than others.

Children under four and children with autism don’t yawn contagiously

I’m tickled that contagious yawning and appreciation of the four types of non-literal communication both click by the same age (four). Have you hugged your brain today?

Koan

mjh wonders how many sides a tarragon has. One, at least: everything has an outside. As in: Outside of tarragon, I like herbs, especially Herb Alpert.

Feel Safer Standing In Line to Take Off Your Shoes?

I’ve always hated the way we responded to 9/11. It’s a bunch of nonsense and, like searching student lockers in high school, conditions us all to be sheep in order to “stay safe.” This is DUHbya and BushCo’s enduring legacy, along with two wars that have killed many times more than 9/11 did. Idiots.

Fahreed Zakaria: Why America Overreacted to 9/11 – Newsweek 9/4/10

Since September 11, 2001, the U.S. government has created or reconfigured at least 263 organizations to tackle some aspect of the war on terror. The amount of money spent on intelligence has risen by 250 percent, to $75 billion (and that’s the public number, which is a gross underestimate). That’s more than the rest of the world spends put together. Thirty-three new building complexes have been built for intelligence bureaucracies alone, occupying 17 million square feet—the equivalent of 22 U.S. Capitols or three Pentagons. Five miles southeast of the White House, the largest government site in 50 years is being built—at a cost of $3.4 billion—to house the largest bureaucracy after the Pentagon and the Department of Veterans Affairs: the Department of Homeland Security, which has a workforce of 230,000 people.

This new system produces 50,000 reports a year—136 a day!—which of course means few ever get read. Those senior officials who have read them describe most as banal; one tells me, “Many could be produced in an hour using Google.” Fifty-one separate bureaucracies operating in 15 states track the flow of money to and from terrorist organizations, with little information-sharing.

Zakaria: Why America Overreacted to 9/11 – Newsweek

See mjh’s blog — There is no end to our misdirection

Ted Koppel: Nine years after 9/11, let’s stop playing into bin Laden’s hands

By Ted Koppel

Sunday, September 12, 2010

The Contract on America Renewed

They gotta get this Pledge to fit on a baseball cap if they really want to reach Joe the Plumber.

Think Progress » GOP ‘Pledge’ Embraces Radical ‘Tenther’ View of Constitution

Today’s release of the Republican “Pledge to America,” however, eliminates any doubt regarding the GOP’s stance on tentherism.  As two passages from the Pledge make clear, the constitutional lunatics are now in charge of the GOP’s asylum.  The first passage is a pledge to read the Constitution as a tenther document:

We pledge to honor the Constitution as constructed by its framers and honor the original intent of those precepts that have been consistently ignored – particularly the Tenth Amendment, which grants that all powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

This notion that the framers had some special understanding of the Tenth Amendment which is being “consistently ignored” is classic tentherism.

Think Progress » GOP ‘Pledge’ Embraces Radical ‘Tenther’ View of Constitution

Here, I don’t just tip my hat, I doff it and say ‘bravo’ to Garrett:

dangerousmeta!

An arrogant and out-of-touch government of self-appointed elites makes decisions, issues mandates, and enacts laws without accepting or requesting the input of the many.” Are they talking about Congress during the Bush years?  If they’re apologizing, I’m listening.

dangerousmeta!

Think Progress » GOP’s Lobbyist-Authored ‘Pledge To America’ Drops Prior Pledge To Impose Earmarks Moratorium

As the Huffington Post’s Sam Stein reports, the GOP’s new “Pledge to America” was directed by a staffer named Brian Wild, who until early this year, was a lobbyist at a prominent DC firm that lobbied on behalf of corporate giants like Exxon. Moreover, the insurance industry is the leading contributor to Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), the Republican who led the effort. Consistent with its desire to placate lobbyists, the 21-page “Pledge” omits any mention of a key Republican mantra: a ban on earmarks.

Think Progress » GOP’s Lobbyist-Authored ‘Pledge To America’ Drops Prior Pledge To Impose Earmarks Moratorium

Eugene Robinson – The GOP’s Hooey to America

By Eugene Robinson

Friday, September 24, 2010

The Republicans were doing pretty well as the Party of No. So why did they decide to rebrand themselves as the Party of Nonsense?

All right, I’m being slightly disingenuous. Inquiring minds demanded to know just what the GOP proposed to do if voters entrusted it with control of one or both houses of Congress. But if the "Pledge to America" unveiled Thursday is the best that House Republicans can come up with, they’d have been better off continuing to froth and foam about "creeping socialism" while stonewalling on specifics.

The problem with the pledge is that the numbers don’t remotely add up. The document is such a jumble of contradictions that it’s hard to imagine how it could possibly pass muster with anyone who survived eighth-grade arithmetic — unless, perhaps, the Republicans have something in mind that they’re not prepared to talk about quite yet.

Eugene Robinson – The GOP’s Hooey to America

An Unhappy Anniversary

photo of paintball woundLet me tell you the story that goes with this picture, if you don’t know it already. Seven years ago tonight, Merri and I were walking our dog Lucky around our neighborhood after dark as we did every night. On this occasion, a car sped up behind us. We heard two small explosions and each instantly felt searing pain in our backs. As awful as that pain was — and it was intense — it was nothing compared to seeing the expression on Merri’s face when she cried “I’ve been shot!” while grappling with my own overwhelming fear and pain. It was horrible and I wish a comparable misery on the shooter and his gang. The shooter who cackled wickedly as the car sped by.

Remember, guns don’t shoot people, idiots shoot people. And cowardly, brutal idiots shoot strangers in the back. peace, mjh

[originally posted 9/22/09]

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." — Sam Adams